Annotatio V §.VIII reply (1): solace from presence not Oral alone; we dispute only corporal/oral-carnal
Reply (1): good that he will not hang solace on Oral alone but fetches true presence — yet he wrongly says we also dispute presence and true sacramental (spiritual) eating.
As with Danhauer: we never dispute spiritual presence or spiritual sacramental eating with Lutherans; we forever oppose corporal/local/natural presence and oral/natural/carnal eating of Christ’s body.
Latin
Respondeo (1) Bene habet, quòd Autor soli Manducationi corporis Christi Orali in tantum non fidit, ut succum solatii ab ea dependere arbitretur, præsentiam potiùs veram corporis & sanguinis Christi huc arcessat, & ab hac, eóque ab ipso corpore & sanguine Christi succum solatii omnem derivet; Sed perperam, & hîc, & alibi, tùm suprâ, tùm infrà, non de sola Manducatione Orali & Indignorum, sed de ipsâ etiam præsentia, & vera Sacramentali Manducatione, nos inter disputari arguit; id quod retrò Præceptori suo Danhauer o castigandum commisimus, nunquam & nusquam de præsentia corporis Christi, vel de vera sacramentali Manducatione, Spiritualibus puta, cum quoquam Lutheranorum, disceptaturi, oblocuturi interim perpetuò tùm Corporali indeque locali & naturali præsentiæ, tùm Orali, eóque eatenus & naturali & carnali Manducationi corporis Christi, sive à Lutherano, sive ab alio quocunque doceatur.
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Samuel Strimesius — Prefatio through Controversiae Post Lutherum Controv. III-XIII + XV Tolerantia, Hexades Annotationum Prooemium and Annotatio I through Decem Theses / Francus plus Annotatio II §.I-§.VI and Annotatio III §.I–§.VII (through Cassellanum 1661) from Ingenua in Controversias Evangelicorum (Frankfurt an der Oder, 1708). Honest partial; Prefatio silence reasons, Annotatio III §.VIII+ fruits / §.IX+, Hexades theses body, deeper Controversiae / Part II remain.
English follows the locked 1708 Francofurti ad Viadrum Latin of Prefatio §I–II, Crimina defenses through III, Part I Protheoria through Controversiae Obices/Historia/Varii gradus, Formula Discord/Disparitas, Ulterius confirmatur / Classes / Formula protest / triplex differentia, Coena Domini Controversiae Priores through Precariae Hypotheses (Controv. print pp. 34–40), Controversiae Post Lutherum Natae Controv. III–XV tip (providence through De Tolerantia mutua; Controv. print pp. 40–78), Hexades Annotationum Prooemium H.I–§.III (Hexades print pp. 1–4 / PDF ~182–185), and Annotatio I De Augustana Confessione §.I–§.VIII tip (Hexades print pp. 5–24+ / PDF ~186–205+), reconstructed from Google Books PDF page images (ONB copy, id 3epYAAAAcAAJ) with pdftotext as check. No modern English was copied. Sister Halle digitization of Ingenua in Arminianismum (DOI 10.25673/65287) remains Anubis-blocked — skipped; Controversias only. Prefatio silence reasons, Annotatio I §.IX+, Hexades theses body beyond §.VIII, and remainder of Controversiae / folio remain.
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