Logos 30 opening: glorify me with the glory I had
Thirtieth discourse. On “Father, glorify me with the glory I had with you before the world was.”
Asking glory does not prove lack; the Lord of glory needs no addition as bare Word.
Greek
ΛΟΓΟΣ Λ. Εἰς τὸ, Πάτερ, δόξασόν με τῇ δόξῃ ᾗ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί. Ἀντίθεσις ὡς ἐκ τῶν χριστομάχων. Καὶ πῶς, φασὶν, οὐκ ἄτοπον ὅμοιον εἶναι λέγειν κατ' οὐσίαν τὸν Υἱὸν τῷ Πατρὶ, ὅς γε δόξαν αἰτῶν εὑρίσκεται παρ' αὐτοῦ; Λέγει γάρ· Πάτερ, δόξασόν με τῇ δόξῃ ᾗ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί. Εἰ μὲν γὰρ ἔχων αἰτεῖ, περιττῶς τοῦτο φανεῖται ποιῶν· εἰ δὲ μὴ ἔχων, δῆλος ἐντεῦθέν ἐστιν, οὐκ ὢν τοσοῦτος ὅσος ὁ χορηγὸς ὢν ἐξῄτει λαβεῖν. Πρὸς τοῦτο λύσις. Καὶ πῶς ἂν δέοιτο δόξης ὁ τῆς δόξης Κύριος; τί δὲ ἐλλεῖπον, εἰπέ μοι, τῷ τελείῳ φανεῖται; Οὐ γὰρ ἀνέξεταί τις λεγόντων ὑμῶν ἀτελῆ κατά τι γοῦν ὑπάρχειν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ. Ἄλλως τε κἀκεῖνο λίαν ἀτοπώτατον ἐννοεῖν, ὅτι καθάπερ τις ἄνθρωπος ἐπὶ δόξαις ἡδόμενος καὶ ἐκ πάθους τοῦτο ποιῶν, οὕτως ἐστὶ καὶ ὁ 75.4
About this text
Cyril of Alexandria, Thesaurus on the Holy and Consubstantial Trinity (Greek). SERIES on this page: prologue + Logos I–XXXV CLOSEOUT.
English follows PG 75 Greek (CPG 5215). Greystone / Durand SC / modern English syncs were not used as wording. Thesaurus SERIES CLOSEOUT prologue + Logos I–XXXV.
Witnesses
- Copy-text PG 75 — Thesaurus de sancta et consubstantiali Trinitate (Greek)
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