Cap. VII: Lexicography of ἐφ᾽ ᾧ — in quo versus eo quod
I hear a learned man confirming this by another argument; let us attend to it. "The same," he says, "those little words ἐφ᾽ ᾧ, 'in which,' confirm. For those who, when they were not yet in the nature of things, are said to have sinned in another are counted without doubt, while he was committing the sin, to have committed it themselves also, which evidently belongs to imputation. And yet all men, when they were not yet, are said to have sinned in Adam. Therefore they are counted, while he was committing the sin, to have committed it themselves also, which manifestly belongs to the imputation of Adam's sin." First this argumentation rests on the hypothesis that the little words ἐφ᾽ ᾧ in this place signify "in which." That we do not grant. For it cannot be denied that they can be rendered "in that," "because," "inasmuch as," and so on. If they can be so rendered, it is not necessary that they be rendered "in which"; if it is not necessary that they be rendered "in which," there is no necessity of the argumentation which rests on that version. How then does D. Garissoles prove that in this place "in which" ought to be rendered rather than "in that," and so on? He brings an index of great men ancient and recent who rendered "in which," but their authority did not hinder others, themselves also great men, from preferring to the version "in which" the version "in that," "inasmuch as," and so on: Theodoret, the Syriac interpreter, Calvin, Martyr, Bucer, Aretius, Piscator, Paraeus, Erasmus, Leo Juda, Vatablus, the authors of the French version which our churches use, and likewise of the English, and so on — for it would be long to enumerate all. Did those greatest men therefore favor the Pelagian heresy? What is there why Placeus ought not to follow their example and rest, answering, on the received version? Does D. Garissoles add nothing besides? He also adds the force of those little words from the use of Scripture: for, he says, it is most frequent that ἐπί be taken for ἐν, which to prove he praises many examples. Namely, he proves what is not denied; but what is denied, that he does not prove. For nobody denied to him that ἐπί is sometimes taken for ἐν. But does it therefore follow that that preposition is used here by enallage, and ἐπί put for ἐν? Nay, if the Apostle had said ἐν ᾧ, nothing would hinder even those words from being rendered "in that" or "since," and so on, as was done by nearly all interpreters at Romans 8:3. And ἐφ᾽ ᾧ exists in that sense at 2 Corinthians 5:4, and is usually taken otherwise whenever there is no antecedent to which ᾧ can conveniently be referred. For the rest, what he says — that he makes Beza the author of the version "in which" for us — whence he has it I do not know. That certainly Placeus never said, nor wrote, nor ever thought. The reasons which he attributes to us are not Placeus's, nor are they needed by one answering according to the version approved by our churches. If you demand of me, Reader, that I prove it: First I will bring two reasons of Placeus, then those five which D. Garissoles objected to himself I will briefly vindicate from his exceptions. First therefore if you render "in which," the relative "which," because it will not be able to be referred to the nearest or neighboring masculine noun but to a remoter one, a trajection will have to be admitted, and that an insolent and very hard one. But now such a trajection ought not to be admitted without necessity, which here appears none, since the little words ἐφ᾽ ᾧ can no less both properly and conveniently be rendered "in that," or "since," or "inasmuch as." Next, the words "all sinned," since they contain the cause of that which immediately preceded, demand to be joined with it: for who can deny that death invaded all because all sinned (Romans 5:12)? Why then should we separate from each other those members of the Apostolic speech which are joined by the Apostle not only by situ and placement, but also by sense and by the indissoluble nexus of the things signified?
Latin
Audio virum doctum alio argumento hoc confirmantem, id attendamus. Quod idem, inquit, confirmant voculae illae ἐφ᾽ ᾧ in quo. Nam qui, cum nondum essent in rerum natura, dicuntur in alio peccasse, censentur procul dubio eo committente peccatum, et ipsi etiam commisisse, quod evidenter ad imputationem pertinet. Atqui homines omnes cum nondum essent, dicuntur in Adamo peccasse. Ergo censentur eo committente peccatum, et ipsi commisisse, quod ad imputationem peccati Adae manifeste pertinet. Primum nititur haec argumentatio hypothesi, voculas ἐφ᾽ ᾧ hoc loco significare in quo. Id quod non concedimus. Negari enim non potest, quin verti possint eo quod, propterea quod, quatenus &c. Si sic verti possunt, non est necesse ut vertantur in quo; si non est necesse ut vertantur in quo, nulla est argumentationis, quae nititur illa versione, necessitas. Quomodo ergo probat D. Gariss. debere hoc loco reddi in quo, potius quam eo quod &c? Affert indicem magnorum virorum antiquorum et recentium qui reddiderunt in quo, sed eorum autoritas non impedivit, quominus alii, et ipsi magni viri, versioni in quo praetulerint versionem eo quod, quatenus &c, Theodoretus, Syrus interpres, Calvinus, Martyr, Bucerus, Aretius, Piscator, Paraeus, Erasmus, Leo Juda, Vatablus, Autores versionis Gallicanae, qua utuntur Ecclesiae nostrae, nec-non Anglicanae, &c. nam longum esset omnes enumerare. Faverunt-ne propterea isti maximi viri Pelagianae haeresi? Quid est quare Placeus non debeat eorum exemplum sequi, et recepta versione respondens niti? Nihil-ne praeterea D. Garissolius? Addit etiam vim vocularum illarum ex usu Scripturae: nam, inquit, frequentissimum est ut ἐπί accipiatur pro ἐν, quod ut probet multa laudat exempla. Nempe id probat quod non negatur, quod vero negatur id non probat. Nemo enim ei negavit ἐπί aliquando accipi pro ἐν. Sed an inde sequitur, esse illam praepositionem per enallagen usurpatam hoc loco, et positam ἐπί pro ἐν? Immo si dixisset Apostolus ἐν ᾧ, nihil prohiberet quominus etiam illae voces eo quod vel quoniam &c. redderentur, ut factum est ab omnibus fere interpretibus Rom. 8. 3. Extant autem ἐφ᾽ ᾧ eo sensu 2. Cor. 5. 4. nec aliter accipi solent quoties nullum est antecedens, ad quod ᾧ commode referri possit. Caeterum quod ait, versionis in quo, nos autorem facere Bezam, unde habeat nescio. Id certe Placeus neque dixit, neque scripsit, neque cogitavit unquam. Rationes quas nobis tribuit, non sunt Placei, nec eis opus est respondenti secundum versionem ab Ecclesiis nostris probatam. Quam si flagitas a me, Lector, ut probem, Primum duas Placei rationes afferam, deinde quinque illas, quas sibi D. G. objecit, ab ejus exceptionibus breviter vindicabo. Primum igitur si vertas in quo, relativum quo, quia referri non poterit ad nomen masculinum proximum, vel propinquum, sed ad remotius, trajectio admittenda erit, eaque insolens et dura admodum. Jam autem ejusmodi trajectio admitti non debet absque necessitate, quae hic nulla apparet, cum voculae ἐφ᾽ ᾧ non minus et proprie et commode reddi possint eo quod, vel quoniam, vel quatenus. Deinde verba omnes peccaverunt, cum causam contineant ejus quod immediate praecessit, cum eo jungi flagitant: quis enim negare potest, quin mors in omnes invaserit, quia omnes peccaverunt? Cur ergo a se invicem separaremus ea orationis Apostolicae membra, quae non modo situ et collocatione ab Apostolo juncta sunt, sed etiam sensu et rerum significatarum indissolubili nexu cohaerent?
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Josue de la Place (Placeus) — Capita I–XIV partial of De imputatione primi peccati Adami from the 1661 Saumur Latin, through Man. Post. Caput X (GAR.1–3 Rom. 5.13 tip) / before PLAC on reatus-only. Honest partial; Cap. X Rom. 5:14+ / ~494 pp Disputatio remain.
English follows the locked 1661 Saumur Latin of Capita I–XIV partial through Man. Post. Caput IX (eph-ho / eph-ho pantes) before eph-ho / eph-ho pantes, reconstructed from IA PDF page images with Vision OCR and pdftotext as check. No modern English was copied. Cap. IX deepen+ remain.
Catalogue & scope
IA deimputationepri00lapl. Densify: Capita I–XII + Caput XIV + Man. Post. Cap. II–VI through Cap. X Rom. 5:14 tip. Not whole Disputatio; Cap. X Rom. 5:14+ / ~494 pp Disputatio remain.
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- Checked print IA DjVu OCR of the 1661 volume (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput II probable arguments I–VII (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput III necessary arguments (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput IV tip through Garissoles distinction (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput IV remainder through Drelincourt (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput V Distributio + Caput VI tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VI remainder Maresius args I–VIII (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII tip Garissoles through Rivetus (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII rest after Rivetus tip through Garissoles consequent confession (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII §.6 causes-argument through Sed pergamus (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII Denique / σκοπῷ–verbis tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII Accedamus ἐφ᾽ ᾧ / aorist / lexicography tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII Ad alias rationes Prima–Tertia tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII Praeter aberrationem through Christ–Adam close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VII Quinta & ultima ratio through p.70 return (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VIII opening through Rom. 5:15 gift reductio (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VIII Calvin p.20 through hereditary-corruption close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VIII Ex vs.16 through Chamier disertius close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput VIII IV Ex vs.17 through V Ex vs.18 Pelagius dilemma close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput X Theologorum auxilium through Bellarmine retorsion before Christi justitia (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput X Superest ultima through Placeus reply before Caput XI (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Caput XIV Nullam extare / Manuscriptum posterius Cap. I before Cap. II (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II §XIV Garissoles primi peccati naming / Placeus bile reply before duplex question (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II Status Questionis before §III (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II §III Garissoles fourfold / actualis (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II duplex Immediata/Mediata before §XIX (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II §XIX Tum in nomine before Deinde habitus (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II GAR Deinde habitus before Posterior quaestio (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. II Posterior quaestio de poena before Cap. III (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. III Observata quaedam before Cap. IV (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IV Rursus observata through Prima ratio (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IV GAR Cameron–Amyraut vita promissa (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IV GAR Denique / Vir Doctus threefold tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Caput V quid sit imputari tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII sons/Deut 24 tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII magist/power-vs-justice tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII second similitude Thomas/body tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII GAR Augustine/representation tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII 3rd similitude King/war tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII God-as-judge/Abraham tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII GAR Ezek 21 / just-with-unjust (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VII Quarto/Quinto close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII OT tree interdict open (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII Hypognosticon / interdict silence (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII sentence / common-penalty (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII personal words / quia paruisti (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII Gospel promise / seed of woman (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII death-reply / Ps 32 (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. VIII Abraham / OT close (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX Rom 5:12 open (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX four proofs (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX name-distinctions (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX GAR/Beza (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX GAR Cap. VII § IX (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX GAR Cap. VIII Resp. 1 (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX PLAC vs GAR 3 (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX imputatum-est reductio (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX three senses of imputation (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX omit/death dilemma (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX omit/death dilemma (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. X Rom.5.13 open tip (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
- Copy-text Locked Latin, Man. Post. Cap. IX omit/death dilemma (Saumur 1661) (Latin)
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