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On the Imputation of Adam's First Sin · §403

Man. Post. Cap. VII: PLAC — Augustine quando unus; not members' relation

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Did he say Adam's will was the will of all? No—but that by that one's bad will all sinned in him when all were that one (I prefer "he"), from whom therefore each drew original sin. When were they one? Namely when they themselves were not, but one was from whom they drew their being. How did they then sin in him? Namely they themselves did not then sin, but he sinned from whose sin each drew his own original sin. And that sin was committed not through the will of all, but through that one's will. So when he says it was that one's will, he does not affirm but rather denies it was the will of all. Yet he says all were that one—namely when he was one and they were not. For as soon as they began to be, they were no longer one, but diverse from that one: which the word "when" proves; it hints that at the time he was speaking they were no longer one. If from the time we are we are not that one man, then from the time we are his will is not our will, nor have we to it a relation like that which members have to the whole man's will, as you were asserting in Thomas's words with whom I disputed. So Augustine favors me rather than hurts me.

Latin

Dixitne voluntatem Adami fuisse voluntatem omnium? Non, sed per unius illius voluntatem malam omnes in eo peccasse, quando omnes ille (malim ille) unus fuerunt, de quo propterea singuli peccatum originale traxerunt. Quando autem unus fuerunt? nimirum quando ipsi non fuerunt, sed unus fuit unde suum esse traxerunt. Quomodo in eo tunc peccaverunt? nimirum ipsi tunc non peccaverunt, sed ille peccavit cuius ex peccato suum singuli peccatum originale traxerunt. Id autem peccatum, non per voluntatem omnium, sed per voluntatem unius illius commissum est. Cum ergo dicit fuisse voluntatem unius illius, non affirmat, sed negat potius fuisse voluntatem omnium. At dicit omnes fuisse illum unum, nempe quando ille unus fuit, & ipsi non fuerunt. Simul enim ac ipsi esse coeperunt, non fuerunt amplius unus, sed ab eo uno diversi: id quod arguit vox quando: innuit enim quo tempore loquebatur, eos non esse amplius unum. Si ex quo sumus, non sumus unus ille homo, certe ex quo sumus eius voluntas non est nostra voluntas, nec ad eam similem habemus relationem ei quam habent membra ad voluntatem totius hominis, ut verbis Thomae asseverabaris cum quo disputabam. Mihi igitur favet potius Augustinus quam nocet.

About this text

Josue de la Place (Placeus) — Capita I–XIV partial of De imputatione primi peccati Adami from the 1661 Saumur Latin, through Man. Post. Caput X (GAR.1–3 Rom. 5.13 tip) / before PLAC on reatus-only. Honest partial; Cap. X Rom. 5:14+ / ~494 pp Disputatio remain.

English follows the locked 1661 Saumur Latin of Capita I–XIV partial through Man. Post. Caput IX (eph-ho / eph-ho pantes) before eph-ho / eph-ho pantes, reconstructed from IA PDF page images with Vision OCR and pdftotext as check. No modern English was copied. Cap. IX deepen+ remain.

Catalogue & scope

IA deimputationepri00lapl. Densify: Capita I–XII + Caput XIV + Man. Post. Cap. II–VI through Cap. X Rom. 5:14 tip. Not whole Disputatio; Cap. X Rom. 5:14+ / ~494 pp Disputatio remain.

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