Cap. V Obj. 1 Sol: Arminius's own definition — faith prepared in predestination before foresight

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Arminius himself, if consistent, could not deny that by this election/predestination love God embraces the elect before all foresight of faith in them. In Public Disputations, Thesis 15 On predestination (p. 153), he defines: it is God's good-pleasure decree in Christ by which from eternity he determined to justify, adopt, and gift eternal life to the faithful whom he decreed to gift with faith. In the Examination of Perkinsian Predestination he grants God does not foreknow men as about to believe before he has predestinated them to believe (p. 32), and adds the strong reason: he foreknew they would believe by his gift, which gift is prepared in predestination (p. 37). Elsewhere he puts a double matter of predestination: divine things (spiritual blessings) and the persons to whom their communication is predestinated. I ask: how does God elect from foresight of faith if in election itself the gift of faith is decreed and prepared for men? It is ridiculous to say he decrees and prepares faith for certain men in election, yet elects them from an antecedent intuition of faith preceding that election — as if he only then decreed the gift of faith to this or that person when he had already seen he would believe.

Latin

Ipse Arminius, si sibi constare vellet, non posset inficias ire, Deum hoc amore electionis sive praedestinationis complecti electos et praedestinatos ante omnem fidei in illis praevisionem. Nam in Disputationibus publicis, Thes. 15, De praedestinatione, pag. 153, praedestinationem sic definit, Est decretum beneplaciti Dei in Christo quo apud se ab aeterno statuit fideles, quos fide donare decrevit, justificare, adoptare, vita aeterna donare, &c. Et in Examine Praedest. Perkins. concedit Deum non praescire homines crediturus priusquam praedestinaverit ut credant, pag. 32. Atque adjungit hanc rationem optimam sane et validissimam, Praescivit enim, inquit, eos suo dono crediturus, quod donum in praedestinatione praeparatum est, pag. 37. Atque huc etiam spectat quod alibi materiam praedestinationis duplicem ponit: Res divinas (quae benedictionum spiritualium nomine continentur) et personas quibus illarum communicatio est hoc decreto praedestinata. Quaero, Quomodo Deus eligit et praedestinat ex praevisa hominum fide, si in ipsa electione sive praedestinatione donum fidei sit hominibus decretum et praeparatum? Ridiculum est enim dicere, Deum in electione decernere et praeparare fidem certis hominibus, et tamen eosdem homines eligere ex antecedente intuitu fidei hanc ipsam electionem praecedentis; quasi Deus tum demum decerneret donum fidei huic aut illi singulari personae, quando antea perspexerit illum crediturum.

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John Davenant — Dissertationes duae from the 1650 Cambridge Latin. Honest partial through De praedestinatione Cap. 1 subject tip; Cap. 1 mid-Thesis and remainder remain; De praedestinatione Cap. 1 Prolegomena IV distinguishing conditions tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Variae (Pelagian opening) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Scholastici / Vasquez Arg. 1 tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 2 praescientia tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 3 (1 Cor. 2:9) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 4 (2 Tim. 2:21) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 5 (1 Tim. 2:4) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 6 (James 2:5) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. II Arg. 7 (Apoc. 3:11) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 1 (common inefficacious will) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 2 (Vasquez physical vs moral media) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 3 (king/prize / victory foresight) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 4 (optimum modus / crown of justice) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 5 (acceptor personarum) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 6 (misericordia/congruitas) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 7 (equal disposition) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 8 (few saved / major part) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 9 (Stephen / glory from others' sins) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 10 (mere beneplacitum / Predestinati) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III reprobation ratio (foresight of sin) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 12 (efficacious election / free choice) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 13 (hortation/prayer) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. III Rat. 14 (decree/execution conformity) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. IV Arminianorum open tip; De praedestinatione Cap. IV Arg. 1 Sol tip; De praedestinatione Cap. IV Arg. 7 (τρόπος; Rom. 9:22) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. IV Arg. 8 (ordo exsecutionis) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. IV Arg. 9 (Christus fundamentum) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 1 (amor ad salutem) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 2 (actualis vitae datio) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 3 (qualis existens) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 4 (justitiae satisfactio) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 5 (natura vitae aeternae) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 6 (Christus a decreto) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 7 (Evangelium invertitur) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. V Obj. 8 (arcana/revelata) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI (Orthodoxa sententia) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 2 (gratia specialis) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 3 (Scripturae) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 4 (vocatio) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 5 (adjutorium) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 7 (inconveniens) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 8 (perseverantia) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 9 (unica ratio) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 10 (abyssus) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 11 (efficacia) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 12 (segregativum) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VI Arg. 13 (pura gratia) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VII open (reprobatio) tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VII Junius trifariam tip; De praedestinatione Cap. VIII open (adversariorum) tip; Cap. VIII peccata-causa tip; Cap. VIII fewer-reprobates tip; Cap. VIII Argentina tip; Cap. VIII dives-misericordia tip; Cap. VIII Corvinus tip into Cap. IX; Cap. IX Ab Adae tip; Cap. IX Ab Adae Christus omnibus+Minor tip; Cap. IX Arg. 3 Sol tip; Cap. IX vocatione Evangelica tip; Cap. IX vocatione Sol cont. tip; Cap. IX Arg. 6 Sol cont. tip.

English follows locked 1650 Cambridge Latin of De morte Christi Cap. 1-6 opening (origin + Thesis 1 + Cap. 2 Rat. 1-ultima + Cap. 3 Satisfit through Obj. 17 + Cap. 4 Thesis 2 tip through Mem. 1 close + Cap. 4 Mem. 2 through Mem. 3 tip + Cap. 4 Mem. 3 possible-faith through Thesis 2 close + Cap. 5 Thesis 3 tip through Mem. 2 Scripture close + Cap. 5 Mem. 2 Rat. 1-4 + Cap. 5 Mem. 2 Fathers tip + Cap. 5 Mem. 2 Huberiana objections tip through Obj. 3 Solut close + Cap. 5 Mem. 2 elect-from-eternity objections tip through Obj. 3 Solut close + Cap. 5 Mem. 2 Scripture elect objections tip through Cap. 5 thesis close + Cap. 6 opening tip through Arg. 1 close before Arg. 2), reconstructed from the Internet Archive PDF (pdftotext + tesseract) of the Roger Daniel folio with DjVu OCR check. The 1683 reprint was not used as copy-text. No modern English was copied.

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